Magick, Hermeticism, Art, and Naughtiness…

I've been doing Leviathan workings for the past two days and I feel like today was a very lucky day.
-somebody whose usually a sarcastic joker jock stoner offered new ipod earbuds in 1st period
-2nd period I saw a bitchfit between a friend sitting behind me and the teacher argueing.
-3rd period was interrupted by a small fire or something that caused the alarms to go off. It wasn't anything ser

For Sale: One Authentic ONA Star Game. Mint Condition.

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A positive article for once. It's quite refreshing and I wanted to share, because the vampire community needs positive media exposure.

http://www.buffalonews.com/life/arti...2.ece?mid=5177

Does anyone have any sigils to the god Set? I'm looking for some and any would help. Also, any resources that you could recommend would also help tremendously. Thank you.

Truth and Lies

I've been giving some thought to some of the adjectives and qualities most of us attribute to The Source (or whatever you choose to call it). Most people prefer to attribute light, clarity and lightness to it; qualities that evoke a sense of a lofty, heavenly divine that is open and bright and obvious in its grandeur. This is a very appropriate collective idea.

Some, bu

So, I was at the graveyard a year ago had occurred a possession of a friend's girlfriend, and I was accused because they knew I practiced black arts.
This has taught me to be wary of the dark as well as the light. Enemies must not be made.

I felt a very oppressive force by the church which is where some recent dead from a few that same year are buried.
This possessive shade was combatted and banished, but it still knew me I think, and what I contributed to it.

It didn't seem overly aggressive. Just a PMS styled "please stay away from me." cry.
It wanted space and time alone, possibly.

The gravestone I stopped in front of was a boy's from 2008, and his spirit seemed to be afraid to connect to me,
so let off a sort of cry.
He was a boy and didn't know me though, so its understandable.
There was a burning candle in a lamp at this stone. I may have exposed myself to deathlike forces but this is how one does it- by touching it, not diving into it.
I was in the graveyard for a short while before I decided to leave from the level of strangeness I felt there.

I'll continue to document my necromantic experiences.
Lets hope this doesn't hurt my health too much.

Oh, and my question: What is a wise left hand path approach to this knowledge? Keep gathering knowledge there?

INTELLIGENT EVIL [ Excerpted from Oto Anorha Issue #32 ] - an essay by the Temple of THEM, Australian Nexion of the ONA.


- 616 -


Where does the urge to commit acts of evil come from?
The Devil.

Like Satan, whose archetypal scorn is legend, and who spurned satisfaction, perfection, eternity and second place, the nature of evil seeks to forever surpass itself.

Evil is an accumulative insatiable monster – a hideous chilling killer – that always beckons man to take one more step into the creative abominate toward the temptation to revel in the rain of blood. It is an inexorable ancient force that drags those who ally themselves with it, well across the line they drew in the sand for themselves, and seeks to strew them far into the reaches of insane spaces to gibbering darknesses and inbred species of horrific cruelty most have only glimpsed in the white-cold fear that is sometimes possible to experience by phantasms through terrifying dreams. Evil is Older than man, wiser and more cunning – but it is its appetite that defines it.

It is seldom in the name of Evil that acts of evil are performed however and perhaps through the habit of humans to attempt to justify their actions morally - direct attribution to evil is rare. Worship in its name is often secluded to the acolytes of the Prince of Darkness – and the many devils that survived with Him, brought into the New World from the Old World. The Yezidi, Cult of Kali, Witchdoctors, Voodoo, Shamans and Sorcerers for instance, still occupy pockets on Earth and call directly upon the names of evil, seeking to placate, call down/back, or elicit the powers and ferocity of the Old Ones in many guises to hurtle vitriol upon enemies and chattel. Yet it is in the name of mindless and mundane events that Evil is given its most common graces. Seldom called by its true name, evil is the blind idiot god worshipped by proxy through unattributed acts of bovine weakness; through inane or petty jealousies, arguments or excuses, domestic violence, unsatsified sexual impulses, misunderstandings, envy, anger, pride, love, arrogance and other misgivings of the spirit and flesh. Few homages to Evil are openly proclaimed in these endless acts of worship, yet dark whispers betray and inform.

ACCIDENTAL EVIL

Accidental evil is the most common of evils – borne in the cauldron of mistakes others wish they could reverse – deaths, dishonours and damage they repent causing; sorries they can never give and emotions they can never take back. Their line is clear. They are the cows in life, unblinking servitors whose virtue is their regret in straying from the Dark Shepherd of Hate and following him only short distances. They are controlled in their evil, restrained by their own narcissitic vanity and the prospect of having to face their retribution. They are the quickly angered, the hearts who burn with uncontrolled flames of passion, those who put the heart before the head – the strong bent under their own will by uncharacteristic flashes of intensity that engulf and consume. It is the most common evil because it is the lot of the daily occurance that comes from great activity and movement in the human as it goes about its life with its fire burning.

MUNDANE EVIL

Mundane Evil is the second of evils – fields of excruciation ingrained in the static slow-moving anomie of the human race whose love for repetition enables the greatest and most insidious of evils to occur through a lack of empathy with the wider remit, oblivious to the ultimate harvest that comes from the connexions of every action. The mindless paper-pushers, ink-stampers, button-ups, just-doing-my-jobs that cause that sweetest of delights for the Devil – the twisted knife of unnecessary anguishes. The foreclosures, fines, the punishing jargon of legalities, the financial squeezes, the pressures of conformity, the powertrips of bureaucracy, the roundabout chase of keeping everything in place, demanding the impossible. Those who watch on, who deny themselves as pieces on the chess board; these are the souls of mundane evil – for whom fault is a distant dream, and responsibility a pat on the back and some crumbs from the Tabernacle.




DELIBERATE EVIL

Deliberate Evil is the rarest of evils. There are few who seek to perform evil and call it by that name. For most people, evil has no name, and in their wicked light they never consider that they nor their acts could be evil, so cleverly justified and convicted are they – they think, surely any other would act the same in their place? Many commit evil, and many call evil by its name, but there are very few who openly drag themselves to Hell in a conscious chariot of cunthood. The book of the dead is full of leaders, kings, dictators, tyrants, villains, scourges, murderers, lovers, whose lives ended the lives of many. But in the name of Peace, Justice, Revenge, Honour, Patriotism, Loyalty, Control, Commerce, Acqusition, Passion, Envy, Anger, Country, State, Nation… For something, anything, other than pure evil.

Why so rare?

Even a black heart cannot bend to the total will of Evil. No matter what the particular action, regardless of how concentrated and creative, how unspeakable or horrific - it is never enough to sate the aeonic bloodlust of a creature spawned in the first days of man. A Djinn of Death whose face has been the last vision of trillions of lives in a veritable bottomless chasm of blood and trickery. The prevalence of terms such as Absolute/Pure by which the rightly fearful name the nature of evil is itself testament to the rarity of those who pass the hallowed gates of mans limits and become something else altogether.

Pure/Absolute evil does not exist – only stages of witness to its escalation exist. Pure denotes a measure, a limit, a place where evil is at its absolute –where it stops. It is a moral fantasy. Satan’s Kingdom has no limits, nor does it have mercy. There is no point where evil ceases to seek to surpass itself – it does not persist or exist, it is exist-ing – chang-ing – burn-ing – thriv-ing, eternal and eternally, always seeking to exceed itself.

Violence is a vessel of evil – but only a vessel. It is not enough to smash a delicate babies skull in with the back end of a claw hammer, its father must watch while he is raped. His teeth must be smashed out of his face in splinters and handfuls of his shit as he loses his bowels forcefed to him. But that is not enough. His mouth must be torn like a zip-lock bag and his throat invaded with meaty handfuls of his loin-fruits and little undeveloped pulsing insides, his violent vomit suppressed and his eyes pricked with pins as he chokes and gags in voiceless horror and helplessness on the slippery sinuous membranes of his own living creation – his infants remains pushed inside him in a sickening display of cold hatred and inhuman disregard for life, mercy, restraint.

But that is not enough. He should be raped by dozens of men, their fat dicks pushing his broken baby further down his throat, packing his colon with each thrust until his lifeless ragged body loses its form and cocks lose resistance against bone and broken meat. He must be torn limb from limb, pissed and shat on, his bones snapped, and scraps of his skin peeled off and trampled on the floor. His family should be told they will be let go, promised safety, allowed to leave and then locked in boxes with their hands and feet cut off – or locked in with his corpse and forced to fuck each other for their freedom. Fires should be set and the screams of the burning should be recorded and made into a song to be played for kindergartens and sent to the deceaseds loved ones. They should be buried alive, or burned alive – freed when their skin is like molten jelly to suffer and suffer more than death. They should be eaten alive, cannibalized, consumed, tortured with ice-cold nails driven through their flesh as they lay dying, gasping - holes pricked in them for fun. But that is not enough. Evil demands more, MORE, MORE! And its hunger is what many human percievers fail to understand. It demands ever more clever deceptions to wreak the maximum amount of suffering, of hurt and betrayal – it demands that the victims first be mislead, tricked, coaxed and relaxed and then horribly brutalized. Evil demands elaborate schemes and set-ups, the inward turn of promises that give rosy glows of love, affection, trust and the downward facefirst spiral into the turgid feces of realization that one is in a nightmare.

But that is not enough, the victim must think they have a chance to escape to be free, redeemed – to make their humiliation, agony and unbearable disbelief all the sweeter, the act all the more unthinkably evil. But that is not enough – every drop of salvation must be wrung for evil to reward its servitors, evil must endure – bear witness to the clumsy experimentation, the confident horrors of purposeful knowledgable infliction, blowtorches to blacken, pliers to extract, solvents to drink, rapes to endure, beatings to excite, the breaking of little bones, the sobbing, whimpering, screaming, pleading, begging, crying, the break down of the eyes and the glaze of resignation, the destruction of form under the force of ones relentless assaults – the white-hot orgasm of uncontrolled violence against others. But that is not enough. Mark parts of the body, with hours, so the victim knows the game. Leave unsolvable tasks, ridiculous requests – revel in the defeat and soul crushing confusion of asking the impossible, of abolishing hope. But that is not enough, because it is Never enough. Mental torture, phsyical torture, hideous games of depravity. There is always more. To feel no remorse, no mercy, no guilt or anything other than hate. To hide the crimes under thin veneers and lies, to cheapen the deaths, or to deal death in denial, patriotism, circumstances – bury the truth under thick conspiracies, lies and falsehoods, to keep them secret and live two lives, or refuse to acknowledge the suffering and those who suffered at all – to refuse to give the lives taken even a breath of thought, a shred of decency or human subjectivity.

Flesh collapses before it can bear such levels of evil. So the killer stalks another, captures a second, rehearses Hell and horrifies Heaven. The pores of their skin stink of blood, their nails harbour flakes of horror, even as they go to church, donate to charity, smile at you as you drop your kids off at creche. But that is not enough. It is Never Enough.

Evil goads others who kill one or two or even many – and then it leaves them for another willing to ride the dragon further than the pussys before it. It is a force that wants the World. It sleeps with anyone and it will do anything that results in a bigger cock to ride. Evil takes small sacrifices even though it doesn’t care about them, doesn’t reward them, doesn’t remember them, because it is Evil. It leads men through blood-soaked darkness clawing at their hands and pulling them into travesties, sins, murders, toward perversions, abominations, toward new depths, unknown depths, where depravity lays at the gates like a mangy dog and new species arcane and sick writhe and pulse beyond in the Never – and yet it will stoop to commit petty meaningless acts in the same breath, because it is evil. The effort of the darkest men, regardless of the strength to hold Evils hand as it plunges them backward into the abyss, is always for naught. Sooner or later All men let go. They let go because they simply cannot follow Evil to those places or because they die in its service – It is too hungry, too unfeeling, too ambitious for men to sate, their lives too short to see more than the head of the Dragon. Those handful of mortal souls who have tried to give the World, who have come very close in making it a gift, have been left in utter dejection on learning Evil now wants the Stars – or experienced the ageless ice of betrayal as it abandons one to ones fate. For every evil doer of wicked, abominate deeds – there is always one to come after who will see the yawning gaps where more could have been done, where opportunities were missed through weakness and a weak hand grip that resisted the drag to Hell.

But evil is forgetful, disdainful, indifferent to Today and living only for the ever after Tomorrow. It cares not what you did for it yesterday even if you piled enough skulls to obscure the sun, it craves only the Moment, the Evil Incarnate, not the Evil Incarnated. It is fickle and bears no qualms in severing its loyalties, revoking its gifts, renegging on its promises – changing the sweet melodies of narcissus. It is always a matter of degree – and of those degrees the evil done unto one man is forgotten where the evil done unto men is a hundredfold, and again where evil perpetrated is a thousandfold, and again where that evil spreads its tendrils into the planes and spans the world as a poisonous spider, its fangs dripping with the anticipation of a godless haze of rabid murder. But when the mortal falls, it forgets. It takes time, but it forgets. It always forgets. And yet, even poised at the gate to complete global annihlation, evil undoes its creations just for the sake of any petty act of itself.

ARCHITECTURAL EVIL

For Evil the deed is not the act, it is rather that the Devil is in the details. Evil relishes mindless killings and suffering, violence and sadism – but evil has more in common with creativity and imagination than many admit. It accepts blunt featureless deaths but it presences itself all the more through Architectural Evil – the planning and plotting of Grand Deceits, delicious insidious deceptions played out over days, months, years, lifetimes or Aeons. The salacious pleasantries of the killing face, the elaborate misdirection of diabolic intent, the satanic schemes that crush hundreds of thousands on every front with excruciating patience, sinister deeds that steal and corrupt minds and flesh, set the virtues to burn, brother against brother, nation to war against nation, the vessel upon himself. It is the dance before the decapitation – the light that announces the Shadow.

Architecture is the consumation of Satan, the cosmic fucking of the stars and of the Self – the equivalent of plotting the overthrow of the Perfect, of setting Heaven and its inhabitants to burn in the heat of War – and the ecstacy of pretense. [No group is more qualified to deem itself an Architect of Evil than the Order of Nine Angles.]
The immolatory flame of the Darkest Prince rises up within when we unleash the Beast – but how that flame loves to dance before it sets the world to burn! How it loves to parade its finery before leading lambs to the slaughter, to preen its wings and gloat in unrivalled vanity as it unveils its sadistic mastery. To revel in concealing its evil deeds, to relate them, savour them, strum them to the slow screaming of the multitude as it delicately pulls the sweet skin off its wickedness to savour the depths of its arrogance, hatred and disregard for all of life and everything that is precious in it including moderation, temperance, restraint.

Evil cannot be controlled – if it can, it is not Evil one is doing but a simulation of off-day good. Evil balks at nothing. Nothing is sacred, nothing is Safe. It shares the meaning of Chaos but it is not without Order. Its meaning and purpose is to multiply – to destroy every vessel that carries it. Ultimately it has no friends, no loyalties, no master, no law. It does not know restraint. It does not know mercy. And it is all that is not. It is the art of the vain-glorious Blood King – the envelopment of the total soul into the black of Hell and the wicked legacy of the Original Genius – of that primal force typified by Satan – Intelligent Evil.

As for the architecture found in the height of virtue, in the karmic lift of samsara and the light of God – their existence could serve only to amplify and illustrate the extreme sovereignty of the Devil even for the evil man. For the evil man is not Evil, will never BE Evil – and forever, forever, forever, just human.

To Truly Presence Evil, Everyone on the Planet Must Die.

+O+

We Remember the Temple, the Temple of THEM.

I am trying to find some good research sources on Haagenti. I will hopefully summon him some day but would like to learn as much as possible before then. Anyone have any personal encounters?

Most think selling your soul is unique to the Christian paradigm, and is very little use unless you believe in Christ's sacrifice, God, eternal Heaven and Hell, and the devil himself Lucifer.

This is an article to show that selling one's soul is fundamental to black magic, and universal in application.

Let's start with the pentacle. White magic users insist it be displayed upright, to show Spirit's dominance over the four cardinal elements. There is wisdom in this.

By letting Spirit run the show, the white magus, and perhaps even the grey magus or magi of colors, allow one to work magic and pursue high magic and discovering one's true self, and ultimately before or after physical death, ascending to the collective unconscious, or plane of the archetypes (gods, immortal ones), and even further finding one's very spiritual essence to be the only permanence about one's self, and transcending duality into Spirit itself, becoming truly immortal, at rest, and living forever in peace as life should be. So magic is practiced, but high or low, above or below, macrocosmic or microcosmic, the great work without, or within, the destiny of the one true force, and source of all magic, Spirit, rules. It can even be said that Spirit incarnated as the four elements and all things which belong to them, to gain or learn something, and so there is a reason why life exists as many, as dual, instead of just one. Allowing this path to unfold, and allowing the lesser "I," to work with the greater "I," is true magic at it's core. As magic is change (greater or lesser) in accordance with will.

To go through unnessisary suffering, to self or others, inflicted by self or others, is the either ignorant path if undeliberate and mostly unaware or the black path if deliberate and aware.

The black path is the topic of this article, so here goes. The symbol for black magic is the inverted pentacle. In this symbol, the Spirit is flipped and ruled over by the four elements.

Now there are many bodies to a man (or woman) according to many occult doctrins, whole or incomplete. But over all it is reasoned that man has an environment which expresses the watery unbound like state of emotions or instincts and emotional reactions, a body to move around in, which houses the over all experience, a mind to reason, remember and think, and a soul, which is the center of self existence outside of Spirit, which houses an unbound like fire, which is the passionate or deep emotions.

The magi teach all these bodies are expressions of the elements in man, and all perish eventually, with the 4 elements and the cosmos in general, as it is limited.

But each element is a divided aspect of what is whole in the immortal Spirit.
The Spirit exists, and so has the properties similar to an outermost, middle, and inner, and so the four properties of a body from each element, the extreme elements of within and without, and the middle, which is properly within/without, and without/within depending on how close it is to the center or edge.

Thus not the whole, but the essence, the part where Spirit touches each element, is what emerges from the Spirit, and returns back home to it, of the cosmos in general and everything in it, including man.

Besides the inner body, the spiritual body, the body of unity, and known as the soul, the true self, the body of Fire or light, which is commonly called the soul, a soul in religion is the eternal aspect of a being. The only thing then which this must be refering to is the Spirit. For Fire is the longest and greatest element, but it's still limited, carnal (in itself), and destined to dust.

So if this is so, and with good reason it seems to be we've found the occult or esoteric eternal soul, of the religious or exoteric man's beliefs.

So to practice black magic, wounds the Spirit, and traps it under the gross 4 elements. Thus selling one's soul to the devil, or the principle of darkness, the only opposite of Spirit, Nothingness, the Division that is the Elements, and so the limited Cosmos in itself. If life limited is a dream, Maya, then this is wholly putting one's self to sleep.

The result is living a life of wickness and so unharmony which is hell, incoporial or on earth. Hell is also an eternal state. It is to live and die with the elements, by the elements, and for the elements in disharmony and chaos while alive, and in frozen dust, when eternally there afterward, dead.

Truly for every black magician, some of Spirit is lost. For that which transmutates elements into Spirit can also be reversed to transmutate Spirit into elements. Thus selling your soul to the devil, and living in hell tormented forever. For what is the greatest torment, pain in life, or the annihilation of being? In contrast to simple live forever or not, not is the greatest punishment, the greatest lost. Torture and flames are for the ignorant man to fear, the wise fear annihilation, for they see the true lifecycle, and it's more than a man's limited life, or two, or billions.


Please be aware, many are turned off by the peachy attitudes of people who preach hell and damnation. This article is not to be that way. It is merely ment to provide thought and insight, that there may well be eternal damnation and hell to pay. This is different than torture for eternity though, for even the wicked are given their own sort of eternal rest, as what once was in the end of time, the limited Cosmos. Realizing just how sad that is though is the mark of true wisdom, for it would be more merciful to live tortured etenally, as one still lived, as life is precious and eternal.

I have a sticky question. I'm not really sure where to post this, but I settled on here. On the one hand, it's a common native american and aboriginal practice, on the other, death is technically involved.

Some of my practices require animal products; bird wings, deer bones, insect carapaces, and so on.

Bones are easy; bury them for a while, then boil.

What I need is advice on how to preserve flesh and skin effectively. The method I know is to bury them in salt for a while, but that adds the energy of salt to the end product, which isn't always appropriate. Does anyone else have any ideas?

I want to assure those with ethical issues with the practice that I have never harmed an animal in this pursuit.

In fact, the first time I came to the conclusion that a purpose would best be served by a part of an animal's body, it was a cardinal wing, and I didn't like the idea, so I ignored it. The local nature spirits put two dead birds and then a disembodied wing with no bird in sight directly in my path before I got the hint and went through with it. I use only such items as I find, by chance or kismet.

May you find what you seek,
Landra

What are some good resources on Necromancy? I'd like info on the common "ancestor worship," as well as medieval making corpses talk stuff.

What are the most common necromancy books and grimoires? Seems I can only find 2nd hand, encyclopedic stuff.

Voidgazing, you asked about Apep, so I thought I'd elaborate.

First, the following is something which I believe are the words of Apep, given to me in the middle of the night some months ago. I won't make such statements as fact, because I can't prove it obviously.



There is no doubt, that either of these forces, if left unchecked, would run rampant and bring about the end of the world as we know it, but the same is true of any single force. They exist because they must exist, as part of the balance of all things.

In the earliest manifestation of the Kemetic (Egyptian) faith, Apep was a sun god and one of the primary deities. It was always common practice in Egypt that successive regimes rewrote the mythology to make their favorite god more important than that of their predecessor.

Seth was a hero before he became a villain, and today's Setians remember this, but no one remembers that the same is true of Apep. He's actually quite pleasant to work with. Very laid back most of the time; after all, what's the rush when everything comes to him eventually?

May you find what you seek,
Landra

In a meditation Amon just revealed to me that he is my guardian demon, his number is 7. He revealed this to me in the past but I thought it was just my mind producing results for me. Azazel also once told me he was my guardian and I believed him for a year and a half until I found out he was a demon then I got freaked out because I was still newbish to the occult. Azazel's number is 9. I didn't figure out eithers number until today. 7 and 9 have always been my lucky numbers and have showed up in my life SO much that I cannot refute their importance to me. I was also born on October 9th. Hehe, I know some will say I'm going to extremes with the whole numbers thing but what do you guys think about all this? What are your experiences with Amon and Azazel?

I've heard numerous posts of people telling of how they've been ascending into different spheres ( in the infernal sort of manner) and it makes me wonder, how do you do it? What do you use as your guide? I've been interested in luciferianism as well as daemonolatry but I have no idea how to ascend in those practices and I feel I've hit a brick wall with my current practice.

After yesterday's sudden crash of self esteem after the big ritual I did, I've come to the conclusion that my psyche needs some empowerment of pride, because I realize that my biggest weakness is a lack of confidence and self esteem. I think the crash was moreso a result caused by the rite to make me realize what needs to be done.

I may go through this with black-mass type workings. Not an exact replica of the black mass, but the same idea of using psychological rebellion to disobey the Weak Self.

I think I'd go about this CM style with various ritual props and a rebellious mindset.

For example, the current purpose of my Black Mass would be to rebel against my static state of self consciousness and lack of action (which is primarily social). I could try painting (I've been wanting to pick up an art but a lack of confidence gets in the way) as a ritual while reciting a repeated litany of some kind.

I suppose I could be considered new to Daemonolatry, though I have been studying it for more or less a year and a half .
I've yet to find a community where I could further my education and grow in my beliefs .

Whichever actual practice I have done was performed in solitude, and I do not even know if I have the right approach .
I currently have hundreds of various grimoires in my digital collection, and have read S. Connolly's Modern Demonolatry, and some of J. Thorp's The Complete Book of Demonolatry Magic .

In all honesty, until like a week ago, I had no idea there were other variations to demonolatry than the "OFS" version .

I'd like to know I'm not alone in the world . xD
And possibly to have someone give me their thoughts and experiences with demonolatry, give me some tips in order to guide me in the right path, etc .

I suppose I could be considered new to Daemonolatry, though I have been studying it for more or less a year and a half .
I've yet to find a community where I could further my education and grow in my beliefs .

Whichever actual practice I have done was performed in solitude, and I do not even know if I have the right approach .
I currently have hundreds of various grimoires in my digital collection, and have read S. Connolly's Modern Demonolatry, and some of J. Thorp's The Complete Book of Demonolatry Magic .

In all honesty, until like a week ago, I had no idea there were other variations to demonolatry than the "OFS" version .

I'd like to know I'm not alone in the world . xD
And possibly to have someone give me their thoughts and experiences with demonolatry, give me some tips in order to guide me in the right path, etc .

I was wondering if anyone else has worked or created such things a friend of mine has a few of them in jars.I find them interesting I heard of someone else that had one in a jar and the jar broke and now theres a large lifeless dead area in that place.

What forms of magic, paths, entities or traditions that would be considered forbidden, taboo or overall very dangerous, even to the most powerful and seasoned practitioners would hesitate using, let alone trying to learn?

For those who say there is no taboo, what I mean by taboo is something that isn't safe. Hence the title "where gods fear to tread" to give an idea what I am asking for.

I happen to own a copy of but I also happen to own a copy of Liber Falxifer.

My question is, are these the same spirit?
The other question is, if not, for those who have experience with either, would it be possible to work with both at the same time? The reason why I ask this is the spirit in Liber Falxifer (according to the books) is a most jealous one and this means to me Qayin doesn't exactly like the idea of their worshipers paying attention to other entities. For those who have the experience, does this hold true or is it not a major concern?

Practice makes perfect. The trouble is I think with this line of magic is if I want to practice, I would need a target to practice on. Right now I don't have a plentiful supply of enemies to use as target practice and I don't think I will any time soon, for I try to not make it a habit not to make enemies unnecessarily. Backlash is also a concern (both the person getting even and the idea of a curse misfiring and landing on me.) Yet not practicing would leave me unprepared when I do come across a situation I would need to act, or at least have a better idea how to counter me being cursed when I am attacked.

So any ideas on how to practice without harming any one? Is there any means of creating a "cursing range" or target practice (kinda like a firing range for guns has targets) as a means to get proficient and have a better understanding of this type of magic?

And no I rather not practice on living creature (not even insects). I am against taking or harming life unnecessarily if it can be avoided or prevented.

In many culutures living and dead around the globe, there has been the belief in demons.

What are demons? Demons are natural inhabitants of the bottom of the cosmos, known as the Underworld, Hel, Hell(s), etc.

What's the difference between a demon and a god? Not much. Both supposedly have superhuman abilities, strength, longevity, and each having special powers depending on what aspect of life or death, they belong to. Gods live or atleast come from the heavens where as demond live or come from the underworld.

In modern times, gods were reborn out of superstition to be archetypes, fundamental personalities of all possible personalities, and so shared, deep, subconscious powers, are demons the same? Yes, where as gods represent our ruling, heavenly, cosmic order, archetypes, demons serve as the antipowers. There is a high and low to everything, so where as the gods are on high, the demons are on low. Our dark, primal, self survival, and lesser evolved sides belong to the demonic.

Do demons really have hierarchies? Yes, but they are formed and held together by dark cunning and might, where as the heavenly hierarchies are formed from wisdom, rule, ability, and compassion.

Are demons dangerous to deal with? Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but they ultimately are concerned with their occupations in the underworld, and view half divines/half infernals, also known as "mortals," because they both live and die, instead of just be alive or dead. Dead being a complex state few mortals can grasp, as in death there is a sort of anti-life, the reverse polarity of the cosmos coming together instead of being blended and seperated.

Can one become a demon or other lesser underworld being? Theoretically yes, and both demons and gods sometimes live on or visit the corporial world and so their are incarnate godlings or avatars or angellic humans, as well as demonic spawn. There are also possessed people from both sides, who are in constant contact with the otherworldly.

Demons are as popular as gods in many earth cultures, and although the cosmologies and myths all differ, and so coloring the philosophical attitudes of both the heavens and the underworld, they remain as forces of great power, and conscious living beings which can be communicated and interacted with.

So i'm heavily contemplating on going a 'dark paganism' route where instead of worshiping say Pan and Innana (sp?) I would worship Lilith & Samael. I guess the reason for me wanting to do this is because recently I've associated myself with shamanism yet have sort of ended up at a 'dead end' in the religion. I used to be Wiccan but the god and goddess grew distant from my spirituality after about two years. My main reason for wanting to have a dual worship of Lilith and Samael is that I want to empower myself and live this life to the absolute fullest. I have tried theistic and atheistic satanism to try to empower myself but I find that I don't have a taste for satanism at all. I can feel Lilith and Samael calling out to me so I believe this is the correct path for me at this time, I would just like some advice or information on this path should I start walking it.

When I think of dark paths or the abyss, what comes to mind isn't the Inferno and its demons, but rather The End of All Things and its ghosts. In my mind, I separate the concepts of Hell and the Underworld, seeing them as entirely different realms or mind-states. Hell, to me, is very much a dynamic place or state where things are vibrant, intense, twisting and cacophonous. The Underworld is, therefore, a static place or mind-state wherein things are quiet and muted (yet with the odd burst of intensity befitting the outbursts of grave things).

Some describe ghosts as being shells of souls, collections of memories that they shed as they flee life and move on. What's discarded isn't a soul or a person, but a memory of that soul. It isn't a very dynamic or changing thing, it's shackled to repetitious cycles, unable to think or feel or do anything other than replay itself. Sometimes they have the barest semblence of cognizance that allows it to dissipate or to move on as the soul did. They're not really sentient, but they be complex enough to seem sentient.

Lastly: Due to the nature of human comprehension and memories, I don't believe that ghosts are only left behind by people. I think the living can empower and sustain ghosts of locations, objects and even ideas (such as dead languages or ways to behave). If there is any kind of Underworld, I imagine it to be a dense place full of many eras of architecture and vistas piled atop one another, pushing older memories down to be forgotten in an all-consuming void. But the long march toward oblivion is painfully slow, so there may well be things down there from prehistory. Certainly there are as we learn more about our planet's geological history.

As living people we're confronted with the power of our own memories and how they shape not just us, but the way we build our civilization. Take, for example, the puritan hold-over from the way Western civilization views sex and sexuality. Any kind of violence on tely seems to be fine, but one nipple slip and it's as though the sky is falling. Studies have also shown us that memory is often unreliable, especially in the case of witnesses to crimes.

So, as followers of the dark paths, what are your thoughts on the ways of the dead and the power of The End?

What books or resources would you guys recommend to learn more about Lilith or working with her. I already have Liber Lilith, and The Book of Lilith, but I am wondering what other resources do you guys recommend?

Has any one worked with her (may it be part of a spell, an encounter with her or worshipped her or anything else?). How did it work out?

What is a good book for a beginner to learn cursing?

We become curious and delve into the darkness. For just a moment we stand there in the center of it, dazed, scared and confused while waiting for the eyes of our soul to adjust and slowly make a blurry sense of what was unknown. Of course we would have to bring it back, little by little, into the light to truly understand it completely but for now, we can roughly make out its size and shape and if brave enough its texture, scent and even taste.

I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting this but as a starting point to some discussion maybe?

Does anyone know where I can find material on Mesopotamian magick. I have read Maskim Hul by Michael W Ford, and would like to explore further into the rituals and custums of ancient Mesopotamia. I am interested in both siptu and kispu practices, so please information regarding all forms of mesopotamian magick is appreciated. also any good references for mesopotamian language and writing?

Introduction

There's much disagreement and confusion in each of the domains of metal and Satanism respectively, and all the more when the two domains meet. The purpose of this article is to briefly shed light on this cumbersome relationship, from the perspective of someone spiritually aware and familiar with Satanism, who listens to metal more than any other musical genre, but who isn't currently a Satanist or for that matter aligned with any specific religion, spiritual way or occult practice definable under a single label. Ignorance about Satanism is widespread, from the average follower of Judeo-Christian religion to indeed the average metal listener. When a metal band expresses itself as being Satanic it tends to automatically be viewed from a certain angle, yet a great diversity of Satanic paradigms—sometimes conflicting ones—exists in the marketplace of ideas, and the only way to know what type of Satanism a band relates to is to inspect its music, identity and beliefs more closely. There clearly exists lots of Satanic metal bands, and in my experience I've noticed metal seems more popular among Satanists (and occultists in general) than among the rest of the population; overgeneralizing this relationship can only encourage misunderstanding.

Different varieties of Satanism

First it's important to be able to distinguish between the different varieties of Satanism. For starters there's atheistic Satanism, also sometimes known as philosophical Satanism or symbolic Satanism, which is a variety of Satanism maintaining not the existence of Satan as an actually existing being but rather as a symbol representative of a philosophy, ideology or way of life. The Official Church of Satan for example, founded by Anton LaVey (author of The Satanic Bible), gladly accepts atheists into its membership. Often good bedfellows with the nihilist, atheistic Satanists generally take aim at any kind of theism, and I've observed several awkward confrontations arise between atheistic Satanists and theistic Satanists in this vein.

Another variety of Satanism then is theistic Satanism, also sometimes known as traditional Satanism or spiritual Satanism, which does maintain the existence of Satan as an actually existing being. Whereas some forms of theistic Satanism operate more in accordance to a concept of Satan as represented in Judeo-Christian doctrine, most forms of theistic Satanism strongly reject Judeo-Christian doctrine and tend to be hostile towards the notion of considering Satanism in terms of the God/Satan, good/evil continuum Judeo-Christian doctrine promotes. While condemned by the majority of Satanists, human or animal sacrifice is condoned by a minority of Satanists, usually theistic Satanists since the sacrificing of a human or animal is a very extreme act which to be committed would require sufficiently extreme conviction and motivation such as may more readily be found in spirituality or occultism than in atheism. The Order of Nine Angels (or ONA) for example condones human sacrifice and is perhaps the most well-known theistic Satanist group to do so—though it's still fairly private and underground in general—and it maintains an elaborate traditional Satanist paradigm as defined on their website.


Atheistic and theistic Satanism are the two main categories of Satanism, but numerous varieties of Satanism also exist beyond these two categories. Some Satanic paradigms maintain that although Satan is a real phenomenon It is not a deity, It is not a sentient consciousness at all, but rather It is an archetype or force. For example, the Satanic Reds organization maintains an almost Taoist interpretation:

Satan is the "dark force" that permeates all of nature and motivates all things to act according to their inner nature. The Boundless Darkness Itself is Sat. The action of emanating out of, unfolding out of, springing forth, is Tan. The motivator and the act of motivating all things are together: Satan. Satan is that which is the origin of all and the unmoved mover, and it is described by both the unfolding and the thing unfolded: Satan.

Furthermore, the boundaries between Satanism and surrounding spiritual and occult paradigms isn't always firm. Many Luciferians for example consider Lucifer to be an auxiliary or a ('light bearer') aspect of Satan. As well, Setianism is a prominent Satanic offshoot, and is actually opposed to the Temple of Satan as explained on their website:

LaVey's 1975 corruption of the Church of Satan was emphatically rejected by the majority of the Priesthood, who immediately resigned from the Church in protest and denied its legitimacy as an authentic Satanic religion henceforth. The senior Initiate invoked the Prince of Darkness in quest of a new Mandate to preserve and enhance the more noble concepts which the Church had conceived and outlined. That Mandate was given in the form of The Book of Coming Forth by Night - a statement by that entity, in his most ancient semblance as Set, ordaining creation of the Temple of Set to succeed the Church.

And finally, yes, there's also the mandatory mudslinging, as some 'real' Satanists taunt members of the Joy of Satan organization for being fluffy just like some 'kvlt' black metal listeners taunt Dimmu Borgir fans for being unsophisticated sell-outs. Yet another (pseudo-)variety of Satanism, then, consists of a lower class of Satanist generally comprised of hipsters, armchair 'wannabes' and angstful teenagers who risk giving the whole thing a bad name; a lower class of metalhead similarly exists, too. Of course, although even prejudiced notions usually contain grains of truth, neither is the lower-class Satanist always a Joy of Satan member or always accusing others of being so, nor is the lower-class metal listener always a Dimmu Borgir fan or always accusing others of being so.

Confusion and conflict surrounding Satanic metal

The relationship between metal and Satanism is complex and prone to confusion. For example, many metal musicians who employ Satanic concepts and images do so just for the sake of being trendy or 'cool', to increase their record sales, or sometimes as 'weaponized art' in light of the potency of Satanic concepts and images in face of mainstream political correctness. Often maintaining the appearance of their Satanic stance without any underlying Satanic belief system or with only a very superficial one, these metal musicians are liable to misappropriate Satanic concepts and images and thereby promote these Satanic concepts and images outside of proper Satanic context. Alternatively, metal musicians who actually are real Satanists, if fairly uneducated about their occult craft—which isn't all that uncommon (regardless of whether or not they're a metal musician)—are liable to unintentionally mistake illegitimate Satanic concepts and images as legitimate ones and thus promote their use outside of proper context as well; occult politics further complicate things as for instance while a minority of occultists believe certain elements from the writings of H.P. Lovecraft exist in actuality, the majority of occultists regard the writings merely as works of fiction. For the average onlooker it's very difficult to make sense out of Satanic metal because Satanic concepts and images are routinely used in potentially misleading ways.

Confusion can obviously also arise if the different varieties of Satanism are misunderstood, as for example the difference between atheistic Satanism and theistic Satanism surely constitutes an axiomatically pivotal divergence of belief. Similarly, it's important to recognize hardly all Satanic paradigms are of evil intention but rather some are of good intention, some of neutral intention and some of evil intention, and some don't insist on any specific moral orientation. The moral orientation of individual Satanic paradigms doesn't follow the lines delineating where one category such as atheistic or theistic Satanism ends and another begins, for example although some theistic Satanist paradigms are of evil intention, the theistic Satanist organization Joy of Satan states: "Satanism is not about 'evil'. Satanism is not a 'reaction' to Christianity. Satanism is not about death. True Satanism is about elevating and empowering humanity, which was our True Creator (Satan's) intention." Often Satanists and Satanic metal musicians/fans view Satan in a more positive light than Jehovah and point out how much evil is promoted in The Bible, nevertheless mainstream understanding habitually refuses to accept Satanism and by extension Satanic metal as being anything other than evil. It should be noted that lots of metal, not just Satanic metal, is highly critical of Christianity and frequently conflicts with it (the fact that Christian metal also exists in such a climate is often made light of).


Additional confusion revolves around the debatable connection between Satanism and a black metal sub-genre known as national socialist black metal (NSBM) which promotes national socialist and anti-egalitarian ideology and asserts a certain group of people are superior based on their culture, race and religion (regarded by most people as prejudicial discrimination). Sources such as the USA's Southern Poverty Law Center report that "a more political offshoot evolved out of the black metal scene—'national socialist black metal' (NSBM)—combining Satanism with pagan and neo-fascist themes." On the other hand, other sources such as Devin Burghart in Chapter 3 of Soundtracks to the White Revolution: White Supremacist Assaults on Youth Music Subcultures report of Satan's involvement in the NSBM scene that "If one only scratches the surface, however, it becomes clear that Satan has little to do with it." Some sources, such as Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke's book Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity, get it totally wrong. There's a diversity of opinions. Some nationalists suggest that actually Satanism is trying to infiltrate the nationalist scene, partly via black metal. Kari Lydersen suggests the white power movement is taking advantage of NSBM in that youths who listen to the music are impressionable and that "NSBM has more success than skinhead white power music in infiltrating the mainstream, since it is stylistically almost indistinguishable from other types of black metal."

Regardless of whether or not Satanism is partly responsible for the NSBM paradigm, Satanic metal is routinely criticized in modern society. However it's important to recognize that much misinformation and propaganda has been promoted against Satanism and Satanic metal over the years, particularly during the Satanic panic of the 1980s in the USA, the more recent Satanic panic in Italy which was specifically ignited by metal, and the ongoing Satanic panic in the Middle East which has lead to major repression against metalheads from censorship to harassment and arrestment. As well, censorship and repression of Satanic metal continues to occur around the world, including in Poland, Malaysia, Russia, etc. It should also be noted that regular metal is sometimes deemed to be Satanic (and thus criticized as such) just by virtue of being metal in the first place, regardless of whether or not a given band's themes even have anything whatsoever to do with Satanism; in some cases this results from interpretation of religious doctrine while other times it results from general ignorance about metal and/or Satanism.


Major events in the history of Satanic metal

One of the most well-known figures in the Satanic metal scene is Øystein Aarseth aka Euronymous, guitarist and co-founder of Mayhem, a renown Norwegian metal band and one of the first metal bands to ever exist. In various interviews Euronymous explains he's a theistic Satanist, regarding Satan from the perspective of Judeo-Christian doctrine and opposing LaVeyan Satanism for not being evil enough. Beyond creating a metal store and record label, Euronymous famously found his bandmate Per Yngve Ohlin aka Dead lying on the floor dead having shot himself in the head, spurring Euronymous to go buy a disposable camera at the store, take photographs of the body—one of which would eventually be used as a Mayhem album cover—and later in time make a necklace from fragments of Ohlin's skull. Also famously, Euronymous was eventually murdered, stabbed 23 times by fellow black metal musician Varg Vikernes aka Count Grishnackh who's motives remain disputed.

Looking back, some describe Euronymous as having lacked maturity or as having held extreme religious and political beliefs in order to build his status. Euronymous' religious and political views, his murder and the suicide of his bandmate are discussed by some of his former Mayhem bandmates in the documentary Once Upon a Time in Norway. Argued by some to have been the founder of modern black metal, it's debatable to what extent Euronymous helped infuse later black metal with Satanism in general or with his personal Satanic paradigm in particular, but it should be noted that the vast majority of Satanists as well as Satanic metal musicians today are hostile towards Judeo-Christian paradigm and refrain from basing their interpretations of Satanism upon it. Regardless, Euronymous' actions have surely done much to attract attention to the genre of metal, the genre of black metal in particular, and the relationship between metal and Satanism, particularly considering how readily the media tends to hype such things as illustrated in the documentary Satan Rides the Media.

By far the most well-known event in the history of Satanic metal, however, must surely be a string of church burnings at its height circa 1994 but that still carries on to this day, including over 50 arsons in Norway as well as others in Australia, Canada, France, etc. However not all cases of church burning related to metal are related to Satanism. For example, Vikernes was found guilty in several church arson cases, but has explained on numerous occasions ". . . I have newer been a Satanist either. I have on the other hand used the term in the meaning 'opponent to all Jewish religions'." Here Vikernes states that "He [Euronymous] was obsessed with this 'Satanist' thing, while I wanted to spread Odinism in the scene" ('Odinism' refers to a variety of paganism). Norwegian black metal musician Kristian Espedal aka Gaahl is well-known for among other things supporting church burning, however he only calls himself a Satanist to the extent it's the way the world will perceive him regardless, explaining "to the world I am a satanist, which means resistance to everything that holds you down," but that ". . . the word Satan is from Hebrew religions and has nothing to do with my blood. I deny everything that comes from this Semitic root."


Nevertheless, the media regularly attributes all metal-related church burnings to Satanists. For example an article from SPIN Magazine conflates Satanism with paganism saying that "for Norwegian Black Metal bands, it's more than just stage act: They are committed Satanists fighting to get Christianity out of Norway, and bring back Ancient Pagan ways." In the same article even Trond Viggo Torgerson, Norway's commissioner for children's rights, in an attempt to add perspective to the situation generalizes all black metal-related church burning to be the work of Satanists, saying "The Satanists are right to target the hypocrisy of Norway's spiritual life. It's a very discouraging time in our country. Everyday life is dull and consumer orientated. Most people would rather have a McDonald's in their community than a church." (The article exlains Torgerson hopes the church burnings can serve as a wake up call and lead youths to have more spiritual passion.) Certainly Satanic motivations were at the root of a good portion of the church burnings, but the truth is that anti-Christian sentiment—into which the forced Christianization of Scandinavia surely figures—united a variety of different spiritual and occult paths under a common cause. It should be noted the black metal community is divided as to how wise it is to engage in church burnings and to what extent the church burnings are motivated by heartfelt beliefs versus immaturity and desire for personal status.

Lastly is the case of Jon Nödtveidt, founder, lead guitarist and vocalist of renown Swedish death metal band Dissection. In 2006 Nödtveidt committed suicide in accordance with his Satanic beliefs: "The Satanist decides over his own life and death and prefers to go with a smile on his lips when he has reached his peak in life, when he has accomplished everything, and aim to transcend this earthly existence. But it is completely un-Satanic to end ones own life because one is sad or miserable. The Satanist dies strong, not by age, disease or depression, and he chooses death before dishonor! Death is the orgasm of life! So live life accordingly, as intense as possible!" His fellow band members confirm this interpretation of his suicide, also sighting Current 218, an occult aspect of importance to certain occult groups such as the Satanic/Luciferian Temple of the Black Light (TOTBL) which subscribes to a form of anti-cosmic gnosticism. Although Nödtveidt is popularly believed to have co-founded the TOTBL various sources point out this is a false rumor. Upon my contacting the TOTBL to determine the exact extent of the relationship the TOTBL stated:

The Temple does not have any connection to the music scene and even though some musicians would want to show "support" for our Tradition it does not necessarily mean that such sentiments are mutual.

We do not have any contact with any band nor do we seek followers within the music scene. Our actual supporters and the followers of the Current 218 work in a much more private, sincere and concrete manner than the antics commonly associated with metal music.

As for Jon, we can only state that he was indeed a follower of the 218 Current, but that his suicide was in no way endorsed by the Temple or the Traditional Teachings. He did what he thought was the correct thing for him personally to do, based on his own goals and insights. We respect his choice, as every strong man and woman are entitled to live and die as they see fit.

Suicide is generally not something that can automatically grant Liberation. We do not only seek to transcend life but also death.

Closing remarks

Of course it's useful to consider in these matters the words of Satanists and metal musicians themselves, such as the articles "Satanism & Heavy Metal: The Confusion Continues" by Matt G. Paradise, executive director of the Satanic media company Purging Talon and Magister in the Church of Satan, "The Truth about Satanism and Heavy Metal" by Druwydion Pendragon of the Brotherhood of Satan, or "A Burzum Story: Part V - Satanism" by Varg Vikernes. At the end of the day however, metal musicians rarely publish articles or books about their philosophical, spiritual or occult beliefs and Satanism isn't overly concerned with metal, so the amount of texts available concerning the relationship between metal and Satanism is limited. In my experience some Satanic occultists believe metal's music can be directly incorporated as a component into Satanic ritual, while other Satanic occultists believe that during a ritual music not specifically designed for ritual use only detracts from the practitioner's state of awareness. Though metal may be especially suited to move the listener in emotionally-potent and moreover arguably in transcendentally-potent ways, in general it seems that thus far, in my opinion, the specific intentions and career-paths of metal musicians and of Satanists don't necessarily converge in any immediate way beyond complimenting each other coincidentally or indirectly, although the relationship is often advertized and exaggerated for the sake of personal gain or simply as a result of ignorance about it.

I'm gonna buy a metric crap-ton of salvia this weekend, and a bong and I was wondering if anybody had any ideas as to how I can communicate or commune with Druj Nasu and other entities. Should I smoke it? Should I use the quid method? Should I buy extract?

For the record, the extract hasn't done much spiritually other than make me trip sack when smoked from a pipe, but I was thinking of trying the Quid Method.

Hi all. I have studied Satanism and Luciferianism for a little while now and I just wanted to talk about a subject I don't see too often. It seems as though hardly anyone would call themselves a "devil worshipper" and that this belief isn't really part of the left-hand path.

It doesn't matter what others think of me but I used to be a true christian and although I don't follow that path anymore, my beliefs are ALL the same. Meaning my intellectual knowledge about the spiritual realm is still the same. Some might say that I need to stop believing everything I am told or to think for myself but I am thoroughly convinced that the Bible is true. I just choose not to follow it. So if I was to call myself a Satanist or Luciferian, I would still believe in a devil and demons.

My question is does anyone know if it is possible to make a pact with the devil/sell your soul to the devil? I do know that even Satan tempted Jesus by telling him if he fell down and worshipped him, he would bless him materially. But maybe he was lying as Satan is known as the father of lies. But on the other hand, I know that real Christians experience suffering and usually poverty in this life so it seems only logical that someone who aligned themselves with Satan would receive material wealth and success.

If I was to become a Satanist or Luciferian it would soley be for the goal of attaining some sort of power to achieve my own success in this world. Otherwise, to me it would seem pointless.

Thanks all for any help.